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	<title>Comments on: Interview: Christopher Mackie on Knight&#8217;s Hyperlocal Gambit</title>
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		<title>By: Biella Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biella Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments here:

http://gabriellacoleman.org/blog/?p=1757

and here (feel free to pass on to Chris):

    1. I can see the argument about complex software products benefiting
    from the BSD: at the same time I can totally see the value of just
    keeping it open as well so everyone can benefit from improvements to
    something that is as complex as Chris points point. Also if you keep
    it totally internal to your shop, you don’t need to re-release,
    although if you want to combine propriety and non-proprietary software
    and then re-release I can see the value of the BSD code

    2. When it comes to the question of ownership, where he says IP trumps licenses,
    Chris Mackie does not seem to link the complexity of project to the licenses. When I was
    having a discussion about this on Debian-devel, a number of folks
    mentioned how very complex projects with many contributors, each who
    had copyright and asserted GPL, worked through this swarm to protect
    one person trumping ownership at some future point. They saw this as a
    feature, not a bug, which I completely agree with. So some projects
    are –and please correct me if I am wrong–far far more susceptible to
    of weakness of the licenses if 1) they don’t hand over to a
    trustworthy organization, like the FSF or the copyrights are held in a
    few small hands. Once you start spreading the copyrights over a large
    mass of people, it becomes very very difficult to ever assert a
    copyright up and above the GPL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments here:</p>
<p><a href="http://gabriellacoleman.org/blog/?p=1757" rel="nofollow">http://gabriellacoleman.org/blog/?p=1757</a></p>
<p>and here (feel free to pass on to Chris):</p>
<p>    1. I can see the argument about complex software products benefiting<br />
    from the BSD: at the same time I can totally see the value of just<br />
    keeping it open as well so everyone can benefit from improvements to<br />
    something that is as complex as Chris points point. Also if you keep<br />
    it totally internal to your shop, you don’t need to re-release,<br />
    although if you want to combine propriety and non-proprietary software<br />
    and then re-release I can see the value of the BSD code</p>
<p>    2. When it comes to the question of ownership, where he says IP trumps licenses,<br />
    Chris Mackie does not seem to link the complexity of project to the licenses. When I was<br />
    having a discussion about this on Debian-devel, a number of folks<br />
    mentioned how very complex projects with many contributors, each who<br />
    had copyright and asserted GPL, worked through this swarm to protect<br />
    one person trumping ownership at some future point. They saw this as a<br />
    feature, not a bug, which I completely agree with. So some projects<br />
    are –and please correct me if I am wrong–far far more susceptible to<br />
    of weakness of the licenses if 1) they don’t hand over to a<br />
    trustworthy organization, like the FSF or the copyrights are held in a<br />
    few small hands. Once you start spreading the copyrights over a large<br />
    mass of people, it becomes very very difficult to ever assert a<br />
    copyright up and above the GPL.</p>
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		<title>By: Interprete &#187; Updates: Private Foundations and Licensing</title>
		<link>http://alchemicalmusings.org/2009/08/25/interview-christopher-mackie-on-knights-hyperlocal-gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-42468</link>
		<dc:creator>Interprete &#187; Updates: Private Foundations and Licensing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there is this excellent interview led by Jonah Bossewitch with Chris Mackie who is a program office at Mellon.     &#171; Awesome [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://alchemicalmusings.org/2009/08/25/interview-christopher-mackie-on-knights-hyperlocal-gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-42356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice interview Jonah. It is great to hear such a sensible view of FOSS from the grant-making community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice interview Jonah. It is great to hear such a sensible view of FOSS from the grant-making community.</p>
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